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Post by chookmustard on Jun 8, 2013 21:51:33 GMT 10
I second that emotion
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Post by zoot on Jun 13, 2013 23:43:29 GMT 10
Now that we are faced with the reality of Tony Abbott, PM, I wonder how he's going to "Stop the boats"? I have an image of him on the phone to Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono saying, "I promise you I'll do anything short of selling my arse, just stop those bloody boats."
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Post by chookmustard on Jun 14, 2013 13:17:15 GMT 10
What's the punishment for selling ones arse in Indonesia?
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Post by chookmustard on Jun 14, 2013 13:18:45 GMT 10
Repealing the CO2 tax is easier said then done. What's the process involved?
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Post by Matthew Of Canberra on Jun 21, 2013 8:15:10 GMT 10
Who is coming up with this stuff? Tony Abbott's tax lures to tap north
AN Abbott government will offer lower personal and business tax rates, government relocation subsidies and investment incentives to encourage a major population shift to the country's north.
Gaps in northern Australia's port, road, rail, water and manufacturing infrastructure will also be immediately identified and a 15-year rolling priority list of projects developed by Infrastructure Australia for urgent investment. I bet they don't. At best, they'll chuck some money at miners (dance with who brung ya, after all), but there's no way they're going to engage in that sort of social engineering. If they TRY, there'll be a backlash from the south-east, wondering why their money is, yet again, being shoveled north. And we've heard this infrastructure promise before - who remembers the national transport hub? Anyone? Anyone? That's just fiction. I wonder who's writing it.
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Post by angra on Jun 21, 2013 10:39:44 GMT 10
Gina and the IPA writes the libs policies for them.
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Post by chookmustard on Jun 22, 2013 18:05:51 GMT 10
There's only supposed to be about 60000 hectares of land that is able to be used up there, according to some studies (CSIRO). And dams are apparently inefficient because of the huge amount of evaporation on open water bodies.
I remember reading something similar to this was suggested in north Queensland. Land was released by the Newman government but it ended up with only a few large irrigators and was used for fibre (cotton) rather than the food bowl concept.
So Natiional Party affiliates gained extra income, smaller growers of food got nothing
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Post by Matthew Of Canberra on Jun 23, 2013 8:47:08 GMT 10
"smaller growers of food got nothing"
I'll say up-front that I'm not in any way an expert. But I do have a friend who once had the unenviable job of traveling around a section of queensland that had been hard-hit by the demise of the tobacco industry, doing various things on behalf of the previous government.
He reported town after town of people sitting on God's Own Soil and doing nothing productive with it. The ones who understood the opportunity went on to corner the regional market in various sorts of tropical produce, and they were making a mozza. The problem wasn't water, it wasn't a lack of investment money, and it wasn't the weather.
I suggest that there are probably ways that we can be using our existing resources a more effectively before we go building dams. And before anyone talks about growing more food, maybe have a chat to the people who're already doing it and ask them if they're actually making any money. I'm astonished that anyone can actually buy lamb in australia, given how little money the people who raise the stuff make. I'm not sure why they bother. If the plan is to just irrigate the north and run a billion head of cattle for live export, then I think the answer probably needs to be "try harder".
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Post by chookmustard on Jun 23, 2013 16:06:37 GMT 10
Agree. I was in north Queensland a few years ago and spoke to an agronomist who shook his head when talking about the 'lucky country/smart country'. He felt that a lot of north Queensland was wasted on sugar cane, which was not the smartest,efficient use of the land up there. Much more could be done with food crops that would give greater return than sugar. I have a feeling that there could be better use of the land than cotton as well. Im not sure sugar producers are getting much bang for their buck.
Makes one wish the Nationals were more representative of farmers as a whole. A toothless political party if ever there was one
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Post by angra on Jun 26, 2013 11:09:55 GMT 10
Ellis is promising a bombshell about Abbott.
"The knocked-up girl. The wedding day. The phone call, breaking it off, a week before the ceremony, ruining her life, the phone call made by his mother. The sending off of the baby to Perth. And how she died, and how he treated her when she was dying."
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Post by tssk on Jun 26, 2013 15:39:46 GMT 10
Ellis is promising a bombshell about Abbott. modified....I've deleted my comment quoting the material as it's a rumour and probably shouldn't be spread.
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Post by tssk on Jun 26, 2013 15:43:41 GMT 10
What do you think the first order of business will be? I think the following will happen. -The mining tax will be scrapped. This will allow the mining companies to return to reporting massive profits. Good for shareholders and good for the Libs who will point to the massive turnaround on paper as them magically helping business. -'Scrapping' the NBN. By scrapping I mean reshaping. It will be renamed so they can claim it as scrapped. The rollout areas might be changed to help small business. And it might be changed to help the big players in content. -Reforming welfare. Check out what the Tories are doing in the UK for a preview of what awaits the unemployed and disabled. -Reform of the electoral act. Moving away from compulsory voting as the young and the transient tend not to vote Liberal. -Reintroduction of Workchoices. -Creation of the Northern Special Economic Zone. Any others I've missed? Given that 'Christmas' might be coming early what other nuggets of coal are we to look forward to? I'm going to throw in -ABC rewarded for helping to trash the ALP by being sold off or shut down. -Unions of all sorts to be wound down in order to starve the ALP. -Tax cuts for wealth creators and extra taxes imposed on those at the bottom end. Maybe even a flat tax.
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Post by chookmustard on Jun 26, 2013 17:43:40 GMT 10
I think the ABC will be ok. From what I can see on twitter and online there seems to be equal outrage from Teh Left and right winged monkeys, so they should be safe. Keep the dumbing down going though and make sure the Drum comments are unreadable. Keep the IPA on ABC24 and don't replace Phillip Adams once he retires with anyone of his stature or intellect, but if they do make sure it's only someone who talks Arts/culture exclusively.
I predict white papers galore on various things. That should eat up time to allow a good chance for an easy win for a second Abbott term.
The boats will be problematic up to a point. I can't see much difference between current Labor policy and the old Lib policy with the exception of 'turn arounds'. 'No Advantage' and 'TPVs' seem similar to me unless someone can point out the difference to me ?
Asylum/boats could be one of the areas an Abbott/Lib goverment can blame Gillard/Rudd for over many months. That's really depressing actually.
NBN can be halted/adjusted and a cost/benefit analysis can be done. As they say, don't commision a report you know the answer to already so I would love to know the terms of reference (if such things occur in CB analysis). If the analysis came back saying fibre to node is just fine I would not be shocked.
There would need to be a few things thrown to the Nationals. National Parks to be re examined. Maybe that massive Marine Park to be reduced? Not sure how these things can be unwound. More environmental control handed back to Liberal states, I'm sure that's on the record already.
Carbon pricing is a vexed issue. How can it be unwound without a double dissolution and another election?
As for Union control/watering down, yeah I'd expect that. Abbott mentions the old ABCC thingy quite a lot too
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Post by angra on Jun 26, 2013 19:51:39 GMT 10
Political guys and "commentators'- Stop using the term "rusted on".
It is much overused and pathetic. And shows you for what you are - unintelligent hacks, and rusted on Libs.
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Post by tssk on Aug 19, 2013 22:38:29 GMT 10
Right. Time for an updated list.
-Carbon tax scrapped. Day 1.
-The mining tax will be scrapped.
-'Scrapping' the NBN. I was wrong a couple of months ago, they're crazy enough to go that box on evert street thing.
-Cutting welfare. Needed due to ALP costs.
-Reform of the electoral act. This will stop a repeat of Australians voting 'the wrong way.'
-Reintroduction of Workchoices. As mandated by the Australian people.
-Creation of the Northern Special Economic Zone. After all, both parties want it.
-ABC shut down with assetts and IP onsold.
-Unions of all sorts to be wound down in order to starve the ALP.
-Tax cuts for wealth creators and extra taxes imposed on those at the bottom end. Maybe even a flat tax.
New to the list
-Harsher laws for refugees.
-Universal work for the dole.
-Reintroduction and expansion of the 'intervention.'
And the biggy. Austerity measures will be instituted day one.
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