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Post by Matthew Of Canberra on Aug 14, 2012 8:31:29 GMT 10
Heh ... looking back at the boracle's prediction about how angus houston's panel would proceed: blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/boat_people_breakthrough/ Yes! Former armed services boss Angus Houston, refugee advocate Paris Artistotle and one yet-unnamed unelected Labor favorite will spend a few weeks coming up with a solution, which Gillard will then try to ram down Abbott’s throat.
Honestly, why didn’t I think of this?
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Something about Paris Aristotle’s 2009 article hints at why Gillard chose this director of the Victorian Foundation for Survivors of Torture:
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Gillard rather likes Houston, too. From:
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Gee, what a coincidence. Gilllard has appointed to her “independent” committee a man who not only hates the Opposition’s plan but likes hers:
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The fix is in. Now ... I think that might almost qualify for an apology.
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Post by jack on Aug 14, 2012 10:24:08 GMT 10
angra, he's been saying for a while now that his gillard/wilson obsession is "going mainstream". Does he mean it'll become of interest beyond relentlessly partisan hacks? When? " I think that might almost qualify for an apology." Oh Matthew...
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Post by angra on Aug 15, 2012 12:22:43 GMT 10
Boly reproduces a stoty from the NT News about a
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Post by angra on Aug 15, 2012 12:27:23 GMT 10
Sorry - finger trouble.
Bolt reproduces a story from the NT News about Ken Vowles, a Labor candidate for the forthcoming NT elections having a criminal record - from 20 years ago. He claims Labor tried to censor it.
The truth is "after discussions, Mr Vowles contacted the paper and gave his permission to publish the details of his spent conviction. Mr Vowles said the party knew of the assault before it chose him as a candidate.
"Yes, I fully disclosed it," he said."
So WTF is Bolt saying?
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Post by Matthew Of Canberra on Aug 15, 2012 22:09:07 GMT 10
Sorry, but this is ...blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/of_guns_culture_and_losing_face/Spake ozymandius: Sorry, but this is a deflection: www.smh.com.au/nsw/shootings-unrelated-to-religion-or-politics-police-20120815-247pk.html#ixzz23a1LKOGU
One of the state’s most senior policemen says three shootings in the past two days have “nothing to do with religion or politics” and were simply examples of “criminals acting in a criminal manner”. In fact, part of this is indeed about culture, which in turn is influenced by religion and politics: Assistant Commissioner Frank Mennilli ... expressed frustration at the behaviour by small sections of the community that has led to more than 90 shootings since January this year....
He said Monday’s stoush between two men who had a disagreement about Syria was about saving face - not an ongoing argument about the political situation in the Middle East....
Initially, he said two older men were having a discussion about the situation in Syria in a Punchbowl barber’s shop, and they disagreed - one was slapped in the face.
“He got a slap in the face, and he lost face over it,” Mr Mennilli said.
Later, in a nearby cafe, the man who allegedly did the slapping was assaulted, and shots were fired outside the restaurant in warning…
Then the home of the man who was allegedly assaulted was sprayed with bullets on Monday night. I see. So even when somebody who knows the case says it's just a bunch of cretins, a keyboard-jockey in another state tells us he's "deflecting". I mean - what does that copper know, just because he has actual information about the perpetrators and has, you know, investigated things. And stuff. But I see that it's apparently very important to stress the role of religion. In this case, anyhow. It just so happens that the people in the story are somehow connected with syria, and appear to be located in punchbowl ... so I guess we're to assume that the religion in question is the majority self-identified religion in that region of sydney .... i.e. christianity. Well, I know that bolta's not prejudiced, and he doesn't select stories and slant them according to some agenda. There's no way he'd just pick out crime-related articles that identify one faith (i.e. christianity) and highlight that religion in a way that gives a distorted and misleading impression about the criminality of an entire group of innocent people. It's true! And that's why I'm now going to go dig up as many articles as I can find on his blog that override the views of experts in order to highlight the role of religion in cases of crime involving jews, hindus or buddhists. He's been at this for a while, and I'm darn sure people of those faiths have committed some crimes in that time, even just considering australia. And just to pad out the results, I'm going to try to find just one other article that stresses the critical negative influence of religion in a case where a christian is the identified perpetrator. This should be easy. Stay tuned ... I'll collect some links. Won't be long.
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Post by Matthew Of Canberra on Aug 15, 2012 23:06:48 GMT 10
Still looking for those links. Any minute now.
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Post by Matthew Of Canberra on Aug 16, 2012 7:59:57 GMT 10
Gotta be getting close for sure ....
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Post by jack on Aug 16, 2012 9:41:19 GMT 10
MoC, there's only so much suspense Andy can possibly take. Even The Pull Factor is subject to pull factors. The thing about Narcissistic Pertsonality Disorder is that even negative reviews drive them on to the fatal, craggy shore of their folly.
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Post by brizben on Aug 16, 2012 19:39:34 GMT 10
hi guys how are you all doing?
I have been staying away from the bolt blog of bile but today i saw a level of stupid i could not ignore.
Today Bolt posted a blog called "Barbarians defended". I do not see how anyone can claim they support freedom of speech and then go about silencing people fighting for freedom of speech in a communist country. He also provides a video from Russia Today which appears to be a very pro government media outlet. The Russia Today video also contains factual errors by confusing the punk band Pussy Riot with the performance art group Viola.
He berates the "communist" Gillard govt for attacks on freedom of speech but then helps the real communists spread propaganda.
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Post by jack on Aug 16, 2012 20:45:42 GMT 10
A puff piece on our good Doctor Easychair by... . . Mark Latham. Bolt, in effect, is Australia’s de facto shadow minister for boat people policy, climate change scepticism, Aboriginal welfare, freedom of speech and the culture wars in general.
www.afr.com/p/national/the_sure_footed_mr_bolt_0QIMGk4DGJ5o3yr79Ui0CL Read the above piece in its absurd entirety, then try reading the following sentence without gagging with laughter: Mark Latham was once the prospective leader of this nation.
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Post by Matthew Of Canberra on Aug 17, 2012 7:59:39 GMT 10
"Read the above piece in its absurd entirety"
I'm just glad that mark's found some new friends to play with. He always seemed like a bit of an outsider, and sometimes lashed out. Ok, they're not the greatest influence, but here's hoping that at least they stand by him when the chips are down. I don't think he could take another round of rejection. With luck, and a bit of peer stability, I think he has a good chance of maturing and finally being his own man.
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Post by Matthew Of Canberra on Aug 17, 2012 8:04:20 GMT 10
"Mark Latham was once the prospective leader of this nation"
I know, and I voted for them. But the meltdown after the election was astonishing. The Economist had a remarkable headline on its story about the election a week or two later - "Australia Dodged A Bullet".
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Post by jack on Aug 17, 2012 11:46:52 GMT 10
Andy: "'Independent' [woooooh, scare quotes] MP Tony Windsor is a disgrace - a shameless hypocrite who distorts history and betrays private conversations, even while misrepresenting them."
If it was a private conversation, then how would Andy know it's been "misrepresented"? Unless said private conversation was "betrayed", say, over dinner?
"That government had promised no carbon tax. Windsor betrayed voters again by supporting the government in breaking that word."
As Windsor said in Parliament yesterday (which, among much else, Andy omits to tell his readers), the government that made that promise DIDN'T WIN THE ELECTION.
"I consider Windsor to be the true disgrace."
What higher praise for the guy?!
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Post by angra on Aug 17, 2012 13:08:32 GMT 10
"I cannot believe that Abbott would have also backed a carbon tax, as Windsor claims" bleats Andrew in a vitriolic attack on Windsor who dared to call Abbott out on his hypocrisy.
From News a year ago - "OPPOSITION Leader Tony Abbott has switched position on climate change by saying he has never supported an emissions trading scheme to reduce global warming.
However, he campaigned for an ETS while a cabinet minister and publicly endorsed one up until he took the Liberal leadership in December, 2009."
And back in 2009 Abbott said "There are respectable arguments for an ETS but the one Labor has in mind could easily be expensive and futile. I am wary of a system which creates new vested interests - which an ETS will do. I suspect that a straight carbon tax or charge could be more transparent and easier to change if conditions change or our understanding of the science changes. "
And "There is much to be said for an emissions trading scheme. It was, after all, the mechanism for emission reduction ultimately chosen by the Howard government. It enables an increasing market price to be set for carbon through capping volumes of emissions...If Australia is greatly to reduce its carbon emissions, the price of carbon intensive products should rise."
And "Yeah look I never said it was a myth. I once used some colourful language describing the so-called settled science of climate change but look, climate change is real, humanity does make a contribution to it and we’ve got to take effective action against it. I mean, that’s my position and that’s always been my position ."
Who's the hypocrite Andrew?
Also Windsor says he will release phone messages backing up his claims about Abbott.
Bring it on!
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Post by Matthew Of Canberra on Aug 17, 2012 20:29:43 GMT 10
Whistleth bolta:
"what is increasingly clear is that South Africa is not the beacon much hoped for after the fall of apartheid"
No, probably not. But neither is iraq. Your point?
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