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Post by angra on Jan 10, 2013 19:21:46 GMT 10
Well I love Art Tatum, Dave Brubeck, Erroll Garner, and the great Oscar Peterson and George Shearing. (I also enjoy the great privilege of having been to a concert by Joe Pass and Peterson); but I'm listening now to the Schubert Impromptus played by whom? And I'm overwhelmed.
Is it Gulda, or Rubenstein, or Pollini? Or maybe someone else?
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Post by angra on Jan 10, 2013 19:37:55 GMT 10
I should explain - as a student in London in the '70s I was entitled to cut-price tickets to concerts - courtesy of the UK Government (Thatcher at the time). So I was able to hear Tureck and Gould and Ashkenazy and Pollini and Vasary at around $5 a pop.
Brilliant!
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Post by angra on Jan 10, 2013 19:43:23 GMT 10
Correction - it was Heath, Callaghan then Thatcher. They all contributed unknowingly to my musical education.
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Post by jack on Jan 10, 2013 20:20:47 GMT 10
What the world really needs is yet more documentaries on the Rolling Stones, right? So there was one called 'Crossfire Hurricane' screened on ABC1 last night, now showing on ABC's iView (see www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/30149). It wasn't too bad, although in the last five minutes or so it jumped from the Stones circa 1980 to close with a scene from (I think) Scorcese's fairly recent concert film. Arguably quite astute, at least I can't think of anything really new or notable the Stones did after about 1980. The program related in some detail the sensational 'Redlands' drug bust of 1967, which resulted in custodial sentences for Jagger and Richard. Police made the bust on the basis of information provided by the pre-Murdoch News Of The World. The program conveyed the impressions of Jagger and Richard that ‘the establishment’ had determined to make examples of them. But what the program ignored was that it was the very establishment that contributed to overturning their convictions and kept them out of gaol. There was a celebrated editorial in The Times ('Who Turns a Butterfly on A Wheel?') that was stridently critical of the treatment of Jagger and Richard, and is thought to have had significant influence on the subsequent conduct of the case against the Stones. As it happens, the then editor of The Times who wrote that editorial, William Rees-Mogg, died just a couple of weeks ago on 29 December.
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Post by Matthew Of Canberra on Jan 11, 2013 15:57:52 GMT 10
"What the world really needs is yet more documentaries on the Rolling Stones, right?"
I grew up at the right time such that my initial introduction to the rolling stones was not their best work. Consequently, they basically leave me cold. I can take them or leave them.
Does the doco also mention their financial support for conservative politicians?
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Post by jack on Jan 12, 2013 11:48:12 GMT 10
No, the docco substantively ended in the early 1980s.
According to the credits it was produced by Mick and Keef, and exec produced by various band members. So I guess it was never going to have much critical perspective anyway.
Basically it's a hagiography and of interest chiefly for rare archival footage and contemporary perspectives, in voiceover, of various main protagonists on 'significant' episodes from the 60s to 80s.
Frankly much of it was all a bit before my time. By the time I was into my teens the Stones were already tax exiles from the mother country and well on their way to becoming a global 'institution'. In other words, rich wankers.
Because of my apparent vintage, younger rellies keep giving me Xmas presents of Stone's DVDs, or the Doors, etc. Because I'm notionally a Boomer I'm supposed to be vitally interested in all that stuff.
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Post by angra on Jan 12, 2013 20:04:11 GMT 10
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Post by angra on Jan 12, 2013 20:14:19 GMT 10
You funny youngsters!
I remember being kicked out of my Dad-in-laws house for playing Brown Sugar (a 45 - remember those?) on his precious hi-fi. However mum-in-law came out of the bedroom and started dancing. One great moment.
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Post by angra on Jan 12, 2013 20:37:41 GMT 10
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Post by jack on Jan 12, 2013 22:24:05 GMT 10
Okay angra, ya got me, I can't argue with that. Yep, those rich wankers certainly can still pump it out. Regarding Bowie, I recently came across his 'Space Oddity' 40th anniversary EP on iTunes. itunes.apple.com/au/album/space-oddity-40th-anniversary/id322175044The EP features the individual 8-tracks presumably from the master tape. (Yeah kids, 8-track analog was pretty much state of the art in 1969.) 1. Bass & Drums 2. Strings 3. Acoustic Guitar 4. Mellotron (played by Rick Wakeman) 5. Backing Vocal, Flute & Cellos 6. Stylophone & Guitar 7. Lead Vocal 8. Main Backing Vocal Including Countdown So, you can import those tracks into mixing software and play around remixing the song. Bring out your inner Phil Spector and see if you can improve on Gus Dudgeon's classic mix. Ah well, it's interesting to hear how the overall lavish production masks Bowie's occasional bum notes. The string arrangement is particularly nice.
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Post by angra on Jan 13, 2013 3:15:47 GMT 10
'Boys keep Swinging' is bloody amazing. Bowie's taking the p. out of the whole tranny/sexist theme.
But is it double-irony?
Of course it's him in all the costumes (now where are my black tights?).
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Post by angra on Jan 13, 2013 3:51:52 GMT 10
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Post by angra on Jan 13, 2013 11:15:44 GMT 10
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Post by angra on Feb 10, 2013 19:55:37 GMT 10
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Post by angra on Mar 16, 2013 19:19:27 GMT 10
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